Comments for Ryan Lilja gone at http://www.18to88.com , comment 1 to 19 out of 19 comments http://www.18to88.com Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:50:21 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/march/ryan-lilja-gone.html#comment-9084 Might not be great at RT, but I would love to see him get some time at LG or RG during camp. He's a hell of a road-grader once he gets going, he just gets burnt too often out on the LT island. I'm kind of shocked by the move. It'll be interesting to see what happens here. We might see A LOT of OL in the draft. - BDiddy Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:28:13 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/march/ryan-lilja-gone.html#comment-9080 I just checked and Gaither is 24. I would be tempted to through a lot of money at him if all it will cost is a 1st rounder. It sounds like there will not be a player like that available at 31. Of course the Ravens could match the offer. - MattW Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:31:53 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/march/ryan-lilja-gone.html#comment-9079 If we could get a young top LT for a 1st rounder that would be worth it because we pick at 31. I thought Gaither was 29 though? That is starting to get a little old to use a draft pick on. However if Polian is really terrible at drafting linemen then spending draft picks on established NFL linemen makes sense. - MattW Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:26:43 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/march/ryan-lilja-gone.html#comment-9075 I believe it was Saturday who said the Colts would often look across the field at the other team, and say it was like the JV team playing against the varsity, because of the size differential. I don't know what the Colts have up their sleeves, but boy would it be great if the play action fake actually became a viable play again. - Doug England Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:25:31 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/march/ryan-lilja-gone.html#comment-9071 I'm guessing Polian will draft someone. I hope he does, because whether it be Ugoh or CJ, there will be "problems with protection" at LT, to borrow a nice Peyton-ism. - dmstorm22 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:48:57 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/march/ryan-lilja-gone.html#comment-9070 Marcus McNeill, is he tendered for a 1st rounder or a 1st rounder + 3rd rounder ? - matuag Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:33:09 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/march/ryan-lilja-gone.html#comment-9069 I said earlier today that it was a classy move to pay out his roster bonus, and that it was likely paid because it wasn't a matter of underperforming what they asked him to do. dmstorm22 - not sure if you're being obtuse, but an LT RFA whose name has been raised a lot is Jared Gaither, obtainable for a mere 1st rounder plus juicy contract - LovinBlue Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:22:18 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/march/ryan-lilja-gone.html#comment-9068 came from the 3rd and 1 against SD the previous year, when Manning called the pass, was sacked and if they ran they had a high percentage of picking up the yard and winning the game. They didn't want to be burned again. Personally, with the Indy run game below average, I don't agree with it, but that wasn't the worst call in the SUper Bowl. This move doesn't make much sense unless they get someone that can play LT. Are there any good LT RFA's. I know that's not usually where they go, but since they cannot sign a UFA, and I don't remember offhand any tackles that are worth a damn being released, its either that, Ugoh, CJ or some rookie, and I like an RFA the best, even if it means sacrificing a second round pick. - dmstorm22 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:37:41 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/march/ryan-lilja-gone.html#comment-9067 No, in certain rare situations, the call comes from the sideline. Manning said after the game that was a coaches call. Just another reason it was stupid. - DZ Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:08:01 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/march/ryan-lilja-gone.html#comment-9066 You mentioned Caldwell choosing to run in the Super Bowl, and I've heard several people talk about it that way...but doesn't Peyton always have the authority to check to a pass? Are people assuming Caldwell issued a no-pass fiat at the end of the half based on the 3 runs, or is there some other way to know who made the call? - andyrayj Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:05:42 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/march/ryan-lilja-gone.html#comment-9065 I like theory 1 too. I don't want Pollack or Ugoh anywhere near the starting lineup. I don't know what offensive lineman are slated to go in the first round, but you'd have to think we'll use our top pick on a HOG. - unclebengi Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:46:46 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/march/ryan-lilja-gone.html#comment-9064 Right, which is why I think there is another big change coming. The Colts were a mess at LT, but CJ could be a factor a guard. They did tender him after all... - DZ Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:44:10 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/march/ryan-lilja-gone.html#comment-9063 From Indy Star: Lilja's agent, Craig Domann, gave Chappell this explanation, which is a flashing signal indicating the team's biggest pending change: "They said they want to go bigger and apparently are going to get people who fit that philosophy." - MR Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:41:39 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/march/ryan-lilja-gone.html#comment-9062 If Ugoh is still on the team, I have to think he's starting somewhere next year. I don't know if that's at left tackle but I don't understand theory number one. You can't trust a rookie to play left tackle, especially where the Colts are drafting. Polian is not moving up to again to take one again. We don't get a decent crack at any free agents. The only way I see that being the case is if they are going to trade for one, which would be a change in philosophy. - MR Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:17:45 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/march/ryan-lilja-gone.html#comment-9061 Please be theory #1...Please be theory #1....Please be theory #1......... - Cass Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:32:20 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/march/ryan-lilja-gone.html#comment-9060 With Lilja not missing a game last season and thus triggering the escalators to restore his contract to its pre-2008 knee injury/surgeries form ... The Colts, in their self-analysis and evaluation, must not have thought it was worth it to have to pay that much, when they are in the beginning stages of overhauling what has undoubtedly been a pathetic run-blocking offensive line. Especially when you consider that the Colts have both Mike Pollak and Kyle DeVan in the wings, two guys who can probably do what Lilja does but at a fraction of the cost. Pollak and DeVan are probably both suited to play left guard than right guard, although that's conjecture at this point. A bit sad to see Lilja gone, sure, I personally thought he and Saturday were the two best lineman on the Colts. But in thinking about it, I can see the reason in it. - project GEO Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:15:41 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/march/ryan-lilja-gone.html#comment-9059 Fixed. Sorry. - DZ Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:13:20 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/march/ryan-lilja-gone.html#comment-9058 I'm assuming that by "Diem" at the end, you meant Lilja. For a second I was confused and thought that both had been cut. - Noroomforthomas Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:10:24 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/march/ryan-lilja-gone.html#comment-9057 diem? - mississinewa Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:09:44 +0100