Comments for Dr. Ben comments on Freeney's injury at http://www.18to88.com , comment 1 to 18 out of 18 comments http://www.18to88.com Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:00:59 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/february/dr-ben-comments-on-freeneys-injury.html#comment-7860 You forgot the other part of his job 6. Causing False Starts. - bubbadeez Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:42:55 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/february/dr-ben-comments-on-freeneys-injury.html#comment-7855 Freeney has been walking around with an unwrapped ankle, in flip-flops all during Media Week. Either a) the Colts know he is not at all playing, and are not trying to protect his ankle or help it heal faster, or b) the Colts know he is going to play, and that his ankle has healed to the point of being just a matter of how it will hold up to an entire game's worth of cutting and spinning. The only plausible answer, in light of all evidence, is b). - Chip Bennett Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:23:55 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/february/dr-ben-comments-on-freeneys-injury.html#comment-7844 What's the deal on Powers? I think that while he is not Freeney in terms of impact, he is very important to our chances of slowing down Brees. The thing is, nobody is talking about him. I heard Polian say he is ahead of Freeney a little bit, but that doesn't say much. - stranded in carolina Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:43:53 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/february/dr-ben-comments-on-freeneys-injury.html#comment-7830 But if it was worse than we hope it is, regardless of the pain, wouldn't his diminished ankular stability (new term--I'm trademarking it) have made his gimp much worse? He walked almost normally. (I'm 45 and when I get up in the monring, that's about how I walk--creaky but not injured, until things get warmed up.) Here's my Hollywood take. Freeney is building a HOF resume, but just ocmpiling numbers won't do it. He needs a signature moment--two sacks, recovering his own FF, and a SB MVP is what the Colts organization is working on. If it doesn't work out, there's always Plan B to secure the win(Manning goes ape-sh!t on the Saints D). I actually dreamed about one of the sacks last night--a relative gimme with 93 playing LDE and Brees rolling to that side for a bootleg, right into 93 for a 5 yard loss. Mr Polian, make it so. - Bob M Thu, 04 Feb 2010 07:32:04 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/february/dr-ben-comments-on-freeneys-injury.html#comment-7829 These practices are padless run throughs. Dwight Freeney knows his job by now... 1. Scare crap out of left tackle. 2. Abuse left tackle 3. Hit quarterback 4. separate ball from QB 5. Do media junkets wearing badass 2nd Super Bowl Ring. I'm pretty sure he doesn't need to practice that. - DZ Thu, 04 Feb 2010 07:31:29 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/february/dr-ben-comments-on-freeneys-injury.html#comment-7828 I do have the feeling that the Colts are being a bit more creative about this injury. However, on the other hand, I cannot overlook the fact that Freeney has missed five practices and will only have one left (Friday). If this were just smoke screens, isn't that too big a loss (not practicing)? - fwvagabond Thu, 04 Feb 2010 07:27:52 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/february/dr-ben-comments-on-freeneys-injury.html#comment-7827 It's actually pretty funny: "We're not sure what any of it means, but there's nothing else to really talk about regarding two of the most boring teams in Super Bowl history. Would someone please spike their water bottles with vodka? In unrelated news, Maurice Clarett hopes to someday play for the Colts or the Saints." And Dr. Ben, at least that crow you're eating from McGwire has enormous wing and leg muscles providing plenty of tasty crow meat. And when cleaning/cooking it, there's very little conscience or testicles to get in the way. - Bob M Thu, 04 Feb 2010 07:21:08 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/february/dr-ben-comments-on-freeneys-injury.html#comment-7826 I think 1 of 2 things. I hope it's number 1, but it wouldn't shock me if it's number 2. 1- As this PT states, the initial report was bad but not 100% accurate. As a result, Freeney's injury is not as severe as stated and he will play at full or close to full capacity. 2- The injury to Freeney is as bad or worse than reported. The Colts have been known to downplay or be more hopeful in players returning from injury and then ruling them out in the end. - Dan Miller Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:41:29 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/february/dr-ben-comments-on-freeneys-injury.html#comment-7825 The one caution I would have about the way he came off the field is that supposedly a full tear is often initially LESS painful because the nerves in that area are also severed, rather than being damaged but still able to transmit impulses. So the full extent of the injury (in terms of pain) may not be immediately obvious. The severe pain would come a bit later. I'll defer to the PT on that, but it is something to consider. - JAT Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:23:22 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/february/dr-ben-comments-on-freeneys-injury.html#comment-7824 If Freeney plays I have a sneaking suspicion Roger Goodell will fine somebody or the injury reporting/listing rules will be changed yet again. On the other hand, I have a sneaking suspicion Roger Goodell has several contingency plans each week for fining players/coaches for anything and everything. - Stiglitz Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:05:39 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/february/dr-ben-comments-on-freeneys-injury.html#comment-7822 That nagging feeling that something just doesn't add up. When you look up Grade III sprains, you see things like your ankle needing to be immobilized for 2-6 weeks, surgery being often required, and a 6-12 month recovery time. That goes against every kind of visual evidence we've had (both at the time and during media day), and it would seem that Freeney would have no chance to play Sunday. I willing to entertain arguments for Freeney being Wolverine (I've made the same comparison before), but this reeks of Freeney having a lesser ankle sprain than Grade III (Grade II is a 15 day recovery time, which would be consistent with visual evidence and playing chances evidence) and the Colts unveiling every trick in the book to deceive the Saints (and, by extension, us). For example, a Grade II strain means a ligament partially torn, and the Colts said the Freeney tore a ligament. Could the Colts say later that partially torn is the same thing as torn? I think they could get away with that. So yeah, I'm going back to expecting 90% Freeney full-time on Sunday. Colts win. - Cass Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:36:56 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/february/dr-ben-comments-on-freeneys-injury.html#comment-7821 Right. We went from thinking, "he's probably fine, maybe he'll be 90%" to hearing he might not play at all. It just didn't make sense given the visual evidence. - DZ Thu, 04 Feb 2010 03:31:26 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/february/dr-ben-comments-on-freeneys-injury.html#comment-7819 The reason I think this Freeney situation has hit us Colts fans so hard... is exactly what Dr. Ben was talking about. We all saw Dwight pull up, start hobbling, and then WALK off the field. Sprained ankle, no big deal, especially with two weeks to prepare. Then the gut shot Sunday night during the Pro Bowl... and we're all going "how can that be!?" Thanks for posting this... as I really think he sums up all our frustrations and questions. - Doug England Thu, 04 Feb 2010 03:29:16 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/february/dr-ben-comments-on-freeneys-injury.html#comment-7818 I second the thanks. It is comforting that someone who is a professional in the field has had the same "WTF mates?!?" thoughts about the way the injury has appeared. This passage makes PERFECT sense to me. [quote]My guess is that an initial manual test of ligamentous integrity was performed on the sideline, indicating a grade III sprain (perhaps even influenced by residual laxity of lig from previous ankle sprain) and the Colts ran with it, knowing full well (or not wanting to know) that it was not accurate.[/quote] Gamesmanship has always been part of Uncle Bill's bag of tricks, this may just be taking it to the next level. Or I can hope that it is. - Crizz|e Thu, 04 Feb 2010 03:24:44 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/february/dr-ben-comments-on-freeneys-injury.html#comment-7817 Something is weird about this. I've had that feeling for days. I just can't see Freeney not playing. I think this is the franchise using one of their most trusted, media savvy players to draw all the attention on to one point to make things easier on everyone else. Freeney can take the heat, and it makes things easier for Powers, Lacey, Garcon ect. A lot about this whole deal just doesn't add up. - DZ Thu, 04 Feb 2010 03:20:13 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/february/dr-ben-comments-on-freeneys-injury.html#comment-7816 Guys, c'mon! You're ruining the plan! We want the Saints to plan for four quarters of Raheem Brock and Keyunta Dawson, only to get sacked on three consecutive plays to start the game! Seriously though, do we really think the Colts are playing possum? I just don't see this organization being that deceptive. I suppose it's possible though. - W_Joel Thu, 04 Feb 2010 03:14:53 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/february/dr-ben-comments-on-freeneys-injury.html#comment-7815 Please thank him for us, DZ. Even though he's only working from visual observations, it's still very good to hear from a trained professional on this topic. - A.J. Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:47:06 +0100 http://www.18to88.com/2010-archives/february/dr-ben-comments-on-freeneys-injury.html#comment-7814 I guess I'll cautiously wade back in since the panic may now be subsiding....Since I decided not to pursue the doctorate I'll just have to rely on my many ankle injuries from years of basketball. From the beginning the injury just didn't look THAT bad. I figured it would be a 2 week recovery at worst. He jogged off the field with a marginal gimp and was standing (not sitting!) without obviously favoring the injured ankle. I'm hopeful the Colts have employed a masterstroke of gamesmanship by letting the Saints semi-prepare for single blocking the left side. Who knows until Sunday? It can't be any more wishful thinking than McGwire not on the juice... - C Biscuit Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:41:56 +0100